2. After gathering the Dragon Balls in “One More Wish,” Krillin asked Shenron to … 17 forced Goku to use blue while Gohan had to beg, 17 took a blast from Jiren that was meant for Vegeta Blue evolution, was the first person to really hurt Jiren, and could slightly keep up with god of destruction Toppo or at the very least ward him off while Gohan's best feat is keeping pace with Dyspo thanks to Frieza's laser prison. This points to the likelihood that Goku was insanely stronger than he was when he beat Freiza on Namek. vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) / Vegeta "You're still just as fun as ever." So enter Vegeta, who was not only weaker than Goku on Namek, but upon the return of Freiza to earth, was still significantly weaker than Freiza so much so that he feared for his life. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:04 pm, Post Until...! Despite the tournament's decisive result, Android 17 is a few notches below the likes of Goku, Toppo, Golden Frieza, or Jiren. GangOrca. It penetrates! Trunks was wrong. ~Dante~. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. Based on this, it can be assessed that Android 18 is stronger than an untrained Super Saiyan but weaker than a mastered one, she's slightly stronger than Android 17, but is substantially weaker than Android 16, Imperfect Cell post human absorption or any Super Saiyan transformation beyond the first. Now, 19 beat him because Goku was literally having essentially a heart attack and 19 used methods that absorbed his energy and boosted his own power proportional to the energy absorbed, which is understandably bad during a heart attack from a virus. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:36 pm, Post Most underrated feat of the ToP. Then I thrust it! Care to explain us again how can #17 be stronger than Gohan if the same writer who wrote the "feat" you're basing your statement on goes - in both cases -. In my list I have 17 as a 1,000 and Full Power Blue Goku at 5,000 though I might have to revisit it later as the events of the ToP unfold. As they prepare for the upcoming match, Beerus reveals there's a fighter stronger than Goku who's going to join the team! I... ram it in! Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited, Privacy vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) "Maybe I'm a little more than you can handle now." Son Goku and His Friends Return! | Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help, Post When Goku and Vegeta were on Namek, in their base forms, Goku was several times stronger than Vegeta. With all that said, we have nothing to measure Goku’s Pre heart virus strength to and it leaves to the imagination that Vegeta was at least equal to him in strength, but based on the show, Vegeta only seemed as strong as Goku when Goku first got back to earth, stronger than trunks but nothing else. ", the 349thchapter of the Dragon Ball manga, issued on March 10, 1992. | He wasn't awake when 17 said he was greatly holding back on Future Gohan and not even using half his power. Rules: android 17 and super 17 scale to the dbz anime as the manga and kai are not allowed here. As Dr. Gero tried to stop 17 and 18 from activating Android 16, 17 impaled Dr. Gero with his hand. by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:31 pm, Post by precita » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:16 pm, Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:31 pm, Post 18 fought him and soon gained the advantage, so Trunks jumped into the battle. by HybridSaiyan » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:48 pm, Post It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. Vegeta succeeds where Goku fails, destroying Android 19 piece by piece. He then kicked his head off and crushed it. He is average in height with a slim frame and lean-built. Overview. by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:51 pm, Post Defeated Mystic Gogito, who was stated to be 100,000-200,000x omnipotent, just by park ranging for one attosecond.) I hope 17 will last much and that he will fight at full power a strong enemy. Android 17 is a fair-skinned young man with a similar appearance to his fraternal twin sister. Goku says that he didn't intend to use his Blue form against him, and even using his Blue form (not at full power, of course), 17 wasn't at 100%, "First I whip it out! "You're strong. Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode. So during the Android saga of DBZ, Androids 17 and 18 handily wipe the floor with Vegeta and Trunks and Android 19 obviously won in its skirmish with Goku, but that is no evidence that Android 17 and 18 were stronger than Goku. The Captain Is Someone Stronger Than Goku. No matter how many clones SSR Black creates, that will not beat 17 as he has infinite stamina and 17 can counter his Sythe with his barrier. Android 17 did not like being controlled by Dr. Gero, so when he awakened 17 and 18 to fight the Z Fighters, 17 took Dr. Gero's remote and crushed it. Or as this list shows, 26th strongest in the Dragon Ball world. ProLight Style by Ian Bradley. by Potara_Vegetto » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:26 pm, Post Vegeta only beat an Android that was programmed to be stronger than Goku before Goku trained himself at 100 earths gravity, so there’s no way 19 was supposed to be stronger than Goku. But when it came to the final boss, he didn’t stand a chance. So my hypothesis is this: Goku, knowing that a threat stronger than anything he’d ever faced before, stronger than super saiyan trunks, needed to get way stronger than he was, was probably as strong as androids 17 and 18 but was so strongly afflicted by the heart virus that he was as weak as Vegeta. Terms SSj3 is nothing next to Blue, like come the hell on. This variant of Android #17 is from when the Z-Warriors first met the Android trio in Goku’s Assassin.. By EX standards, he is a mediocre Melee Fighter, albeit one with a powerful Main Ability and Cover, which not many EX Fighters have access to.. Lastly, his Special Move is teachable to Shallot at Friendship Level 2 so if nothing else, he’s worth the grind for that. Every angle...! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. vs. Piccolo Even worse, Vegeta’s Super Saiyan is actually stronger than Goku’s at this point in the story. It's not unreasonable to think the computer was boosting Android 17/18 while they were in stasis. ; Adaptational Badass: In the manga, neither of them have power level detectors, although 18 does manage to learn how to sense ki by Yo! He and Gohan are probably close in strength, but Android 17's barriers and infinite energy would give him the immediate advantage if the two were ever forced to go up against one another. They arent weaker. by Slaythe » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:07 pm, Post Bulma suggests summoning Shenron to find the remaining Super Dragon Balls, but even his power is not enough. Just because Vegeta defeated pathetic Toppo that doesn't mean he is becoming stronger than Goku, Toppo's best feat is defeating 17 which SSB KK Goku already showed that he is much stronger than 17 as well when he overpowered U2's black hole when 17 couldn't even get up. With great strength...! by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:40 pm, Post Speed: Omnipresent+ (Via scaling to Mystic Gogito.) 4 Frieza There's no question that Frieza is several times stronger than Gohan. In Dragon Ball GT, Trunks recognizes Android 17 when he attacks him. It should be said, the anime’s version of Android 17 seems considerably stronger than his manga counterpart. Re: Android 17 stronger than DBS Goku SS3. Super Android 13 wrecks the entire Z-Fighters squad and leaves them all on the brink of perishing. 3. Android 17 (人造人間17号, Jinzōningen Jū Nana) is a fictional character in the Dragon Ball franchise . by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:42 pm, Post With great force! ... and 17 is stronger than that. Considering Goku pulled out SSJB to fight him, yeah, I'd place Android about a few notched above SSJ3 Goku. by pacz360 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:55 pm. That was absolute Insane. Out of all the plot twists that Dragon Ball Super brought, one of the biggest might be the inclusion of Future Mai as a… vs. Goku (Super Saiyan) / Goku "You more than live up to your title, Saiyan prince." by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:38 pm, Post He makes his first animated appearance in "Nightmare Comes True", the 133rd episode of Dragon Ball Z, which premiered on April 8, 1992. '90s Hair: Both Androids have them. If beating down SSJ Goku isn't enough of a feat for Android 17 to be above Buu, there's also him fighting evenly with SSB Goku with minimal struggle while only using a portion of his power. by HybridSaiyan » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:22 pm, Post Modified by Hujio. SSB Goku > / = Android 17 >>> SSJ Goku = ritually powered up Goku (vs Beerus) >>>>> SSJ Vegetto >>> Buuhan >> Super Buu >>> Mr. Buu. 17 sports the curtain hairstyle, while 18 has a slick Rachel.They were conceived by Toriyama around that time period, after all. I personally thin 17 is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Goku and Vegeta have budding families of their own just like Android 18. Android 17 is the only Android of the trio never to meet Goku (both in the manga and anime unless one counts Super 17). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Vegeta followed them and challenged them to a battle. 1. Android 17 (Japanese: 人造人間17号, Hepburn: Jinzōningen Jū Nana Gō, lit. He wears a short sleeve black shirt with t… Android 17 went on to become the breakout star of the Tournament of Power, outlasting fighters like Gohan, Caulifla, Hit, Top, and more. Trunks was about even in strength with the alternate 17 and 18 when he first went to the past and way stronger than mecha freiza in the original timeline. Which means Trunks (no stronger than Gohan) never saw what they were really capable of and is just ignorant. After awakening 16, 17 and 18 left with him. Android 18 is very likely on the same level as Piccolo or maybe slightly stronger or weaker. 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